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Post by Helen on Dec 7, 2003 20:25:22 GMT -5
In your view who are 'the weak'?
(This is a biggy.)
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Post by Dani on Jan 13, 2004 9:19:45 GMT -5
The Weak To Me Are Those Of Weak Mind, Strength And Ability Have Little To Do With It.
Ignorance Makes Someone Extremely Weak If You Ask Me.
Who Are The Weak In Your Opinon Helen?
Spirit of The White Wolf
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Post by Helen on Jan 19, 2004 11:10:21 GMT -5
I think this is a huge topic because how we define the weak can determine whether we are more concerned with self-preservation, responsibility to the responsible and contempt for psychic vampires, or if we are the sort of people who are inclined to believe in racial and biological purification, eugenics, concentration camps and so on.
I know that Nietzsche spoke about how pity for the weak makes us weak and how if we become altruistic we will shoot ourselves in the foot, but how do we define the weak? Are they the people who are less fortunate, they have physical or mental disabilities, they are born into a race of people who are oppressed or are born with a gender considered less worthy - like transgendered people or women in a patriarchy? If I'm getting on to the bus and I see someone who through physical disability can't get on and I can't be bothered helping them so don't, does that make me a good Satanist? or a good practitioner of the philosophies of Nietzsche?
Personally I don't feel that the weak are the disadvantaged. It is not our circumstances that define us, it is our choices as to what we do within those circumstances, hopefully to change them for the better. The weak are those who have a choice and do nothing but continue to complain.
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Post by Justaguest on Jan 19, 2004 22:29:56 GMT -5
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Post by Stuart Ellaway on Jan 20, 2004 5:09:41 GMT -5
Hooray our very first moron on the new board. Its been a while.
You know I think I'm going to walk into the cathedral one day and yell "Hey you should stop nailing people to sticks its cruel" in my most innocent and shocked sounding voice. I wonder if people will explain patiently to me the error of my misinformed views or just shove me out the door?
At least an idiot would be justified walking into a church and making snap judgements if they had never heard of christianity since there is no supporting info directly in their path. Here however we have links to the SotOS website and other links with info on the left hand path and satanism. But I guess this guy is too busy trying to save us to check out what he's saving us from.
SPOON
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Post by Stuart Ellaway on Jan 20, 2004 5:26:51 GMT -5
A Copy of the post I left in their guestbook:
Greetings to you all,
I found this board by a link posted on the webboard that i run. Unfortunately the link was posted in ignorance of our religious and philosophical beliefs. Most of us have absolutely no problem with people living their lives as they see fit with their own religious views and beliefs. However we do demand the right to similar treatment.
There are many paths in this world that lead to enlightenment and spiritual fulfilment and ALL are as valid as each other. Other paths may appear completely different and abhorrant to you when you are deeply involved in one and many paths claim to be the only correct one. This narrow minded view will not be tolerated and all we ask for is respect and to be left alone to travel our own path.
I will not spam your group with links to FAQs regarding our religion or to our mission statement and policies, since I believe in your right to believe in whatever you choose.
Magistrate Ellaway
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Post by Dani on Jan 20, 2004 11:12:25 GMT -5
Rightly Said Stu, I Find It Humourous That 'Justaguest' Bothered Writing It.
Like As If "you'll be sorry one day" Is Going To Make Us Recoil In Horror And Follow The Xtian Faith...Its Absurd!
Plus I Like The "Stop Nailing People To Sticks" Idea, Give Them A Taste of Their Own Ignorance! LoL
Spirit of The White Wolf
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Post by Helen on Jan 20, 2004 13:47:35 GMT -5
Perhaps Justaguest's contribution was a kind of postmodern reply to the question posed. I asked 'who are the weak?' and rather than present a theory 'justaguest' decided to give us a demonstration. I think in fact that 'justaguest' is a very intelligent and enlightened soul who is an extremely valuable contributor to this board.
Is that a bird or a plane outside my window?...no I believe it is airborne swine
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Post by Stuart Ellaway on Jan 21, 2004 15:39:13 GMT -5
I just took some time out to go look at their board more deeply. It is full of some of the most ignorant and naive posts i have seen in a long long time.
There is a thread where one (I assume child) is asking why there are no films about dinosaurs on Noahs Ark. The thread does then go on to talk about dinosaurs mentioned in the bible which is ok, but still fails to mention the fact that dinosaurs died out before man dominated this planet.
Horribly though in their 'soap box' forum the board owner reprints a news article about canada legalising gay marriage. His next post then simply reads 'so sick'. Followed by someone suggesting a christian army is raised and invades Canada. Can we say crusades?
Oh and no debate is allowed in the bible study forum. Thats not bible study its recitation. Jeez and this guy calls US sad.
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Post by psiangel on Mar 3, 2004 15:08:33 GMT -5
I wouldn’t say the week where people in wheel chairs and blind people but people who lack any force for themselves. People, who can be walked over and kicked without retaliation, generally people who can’t prove themselves to be any use to anyone.
why should we waste time on people who are no use to us that’s what I believe LeVay meant
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Post by DeSadea Guest on Mar 16, 2004 12:11:26 GMT -5
Greetings,
I believe that the weak can refer to those who dont bother to even try and think for themselves...those who hide in *convention* and do not challenge anything about their lives and never dare to attempt manifestation of their dreams.
A word of warning....this type of individual often takes a dislike to the *awakened* and they group together, behaving like germs to attack the healthy organism and bring it down..
My reaction to such a challenge is to kill the virus by whatever means are available to me...
Hail Satan!!!
DeSade
(Bristol UK)
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Post by Helen on Mar 17, 2004 10:51:19 GMT -5
Hi De Sade,
Nice alias.
I agree with your sentiments with regards to your contempt for those who blindly swallow convention.
I would also extend this contempt to anyone who blindly follows anything, including any Left Hand Path. To fall for things without questioning is always very foolish.
Anyway, thanks for your contributions and welcome onto the board. Please stick around, we are always interested in hearing as many views as possible.
Helen.
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Post by DeSade on Mar 17, 2004 15:35:58 GMT -5
Hi Helen,
Thanks for the welcome and I will stick around as long as I feel inclined.
Yes to use the *trappings* of Satanism as another convention is indeed worthy of contempt..and a sign of weakness for sure.
Im careful these days how I use the term Left Hand Path
as in its true form the LHP has very little to do with the majority of Satanic systems.
The LHP being the way of the female Deamonic and originating in India.
DeSade
Hail Satan....
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Post by Helen on Mar 17, 2004 16:25:56 GMT -5
Hi DeSade.
You seem quite confident in your assertions of the 'true' nature and origins of the LHP and in your statement of how the LHP has little to do with Satanism.
Would you please elaborate on these statements and disclose your sources?
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Post by DeSade on Mar 21, 2004 11:15:37 GMT -5
Hi Helen,
I studied for a short time with Zeena and Nicholas Schrecks group *The Storm* but left through a mixture of needing to readjust my life to facilitate LHP initiation and a personal need to investigate my feelling that Im more suited to traditional FCOS modus operandi...
Zeena and Nicholas are the most focussed Adepts I have worked with for a long time and I would highly recommend their book ..Demons of the Flesh.
Im not saying that no form of Satanism can be classed as LHP as the system used by the ONA most certainly embraces core LHP initiatory practices.
The connection between Satanism and LHP has been accredited to Madme Blavatskys biased and highly inacurate definition of RHP = good LHP = evil...
As an aside and to keep on topic the nearest thing to a definition of the WEAK in the VAMA MARGA tradition is the unitiated herd animal....
I hope I put my point across clearly...
DeSade
Hail Satan!
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